Whys of Falls
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@biell -- Another testimonial! We -- and I have heard of other former sufferers for whom Onewheeling was therapy -- ought to be published in a medical journal!
Glad to hear of your welcome relief!
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@s-leon said in Whys of Falls:
for whom Onewheeling was therapy -- ought to be published in a medical journal!
it is already. its called low impact exercise. outside of aggressive trail n trick riding, its very yoga-like if u make a habit of stretching beforehand. it's good for developing core strength and improving circulation. the resulting neurochemistry is also healthier. lowers blood pressure, increases blood oxygen, plus provides a steady dose of vitamin d.
its yoga without the excruciating boredom.
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@notsure I also agree on the neurochemistry. I honestly don't know how I would have made it through the pandemic without my boards. I have a friend who was having a really hard go of it, he got an e-bike, and it really saved him.
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Sidelined and still bored, I have been thinking about why I broke my clavicle this time and not in a previous shoulder slam. Clearly here I tried to break my fall, thrust out my arm and stiffened up. Mistake!
When she was an adventuresome college student hitchhiking across the continent, sitting in a lawn chair in an old style VW bus being driven somewhere in Canada, as they turned a corner, my former wife leaned back against the hinged doors, which swung open, and she fell out backwards. She described her body's reaction: Totally limp and relaxed! She was not especially hurt in the fall. Other people have described similar reactions to me to sudden, unexpected mishaps.
Last year at 20 mph I nosedived and slammed onto my shoulder armor. Happily Onewheeling one moment, in the next eyeblink I was down, lying/skidding on the pavement! There was no time at all to react. And all that resulted was a sore shoulder -- nothing broken or even dislocated. The key I think might be in how fast it happens. This fall that broke my clavicle happened much more slowly, with time to stiffen up and stick that arm out.
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I have been trying to puzzle my speeds on my Onewheel Plus. A couple weeks ago, in the last few days I was riding, I topped out at 24.4 mph -- again this is on a Plus. In his recent video on nosedives DadoSurf said the Plus has about 8% less capacity for speed than an XR -- that means pushing an XR similarly I would be up to 26.35 mph.
How am I getting those speeds -- which have been commonly over 23 mph? On a Plus? EGO 10ah 3p battery is one reason -- plenty of power with little sag. Great trail. Years of riding relaxation -- tuned into the board. No BMS. Maybe the speeds are actually a little inflated as I ride a maybe smaller diameter Hoosier 5.5 treaded tire at hard pressure. Not a heavy rider -- 150 lbs. -- more with full gear and 8 lb. battery on the fender.
In exploring top possible speeds, DadoSurf cites a figure in the low 20 mph, then revises it higher due to "magnetic weakening." I am guessing that with the centrifucal momentum less power is needed to maintain the rotation, so the battery is less stressed and has a deeper reservoir. I can see though that sudden bumps or loads at high speeds could mess up and disrupt the energy flow, perhaps causing big problems.
I am really looking forward to Onewheeling again, using the BadgerSense to visibly show me how much of an active battery reservoir I really have left when I am cruising at those speeds.
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@s-leon said in Whys of Falls:
... The key I think might be in how fast it happens. This fall that broke my clavicle happened much more slowly, with time to stiffen up and stick that arm out.]
This is the theory of drunk survival. During an accident of any kind. Intoxicated individuals just go with it and survive. 🛹🍻
This is not a recommendation!
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Around mile 778, the GT reacquainted me with the ground. It was my first biff on the GT and happened around 3 miles into a 10 mile trail ride. The remaining 7 miles gave me time to ponder what went wrong. My only conclusion was unfamiliarity of the trail.
I had only rode this trail twice before and thought I had the “rough spots” memorized. 28 days had passed since I last rode it and the spot that slammed me was very rutted/wash boarded out. I came in too hot and didn’t have a chance to recover, I was sideways in the air at around 14 mph, no run-out possible. A couple scraped palms, elbow, shoulder and back were the extent of the injuries.
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@hanahsdax -- Scary to read about!!! Trails change over time -- sometimes even with different times and lighting of the day. The fall does not seem to have interfered with your standing on the GT Leaderboard! Be safe!!!
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@s-leon I have noticed this too, sometimes things change on the way back on the same ride. But, I actually try not to memorize the trails. I ride the same 40ish miles of single track over and over again, so I try to forget as much as possible to keep it from getting boring and letting my guard down.
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We're all a bit worse for wear the past few days aren't we. Hope your scrapes are healing up nicely @HanahsDax
Gave a corner way too many beans and ended up paying for it with a fresh hole in my jeans, tights and knee plus a nicely ground off edge on the wrist guards.
(Pulled the jeans over the bloodied bit. It's nothing impressive but nobody wants to see that)
(These things have saved my wrists more times than I'm willing to admit)
There's a really fun corner to come up on and hook around. Being used to the Whisper I used to really lean into it to get the tire to follow. Forgetting the new Hoosier D20 is a dream and doesn't need any sort of effort to turn I pressed too hard on my heelside and plummeted off the board halfway into a full 45 lean at maybe 10+mph.
Got up, picked up Slush off the road and carried on off to go get dinner. Only noticed my bloodied knee later after prying off my bottom half. Oops, one less patch of skin to shave I guess ;)
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@s-leon
I was having the same before my last spill. Happily cruising at 22-23mph and forget how little margin there's left. I tuned down 1 mph, maybe 2😂.The "field weakening" using back-emf of the motor increases the max rpm of the motor but the cost is torque. Definitely will not use this on vesc where rpm is true and reliable. So for more speed add more cells;)
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It is more or less official: At my six week check-up today after clavicle surgery all is healing well, and the doctor says as long as I take it easy with that arm and do not fall on that shoulder I can resume life! To me that means that as long as I do not fall on my leading arm/shoulder, I can Onewheel. The BadgerSense is help as a safeguard.
And I have held to the doctor's advice even before it was given.
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@s-leon said in Whys of Falls:
as long as I do not fall on my leading arm/shoulder
Time to ride switch! Which, btw, I am incapable of. :)
GT-S > GT > Pint X > XR > +
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@onedangt -- Switch? Not likely after 22,000 regular miles. Ha!
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@s-leon I always wanted to ride switch when I snowboarded, but it was a pain as I would have to remount my bindings and was stuck on the beginner slope.
However, last year I started riding switch(regular) on my OW and I'm at a level where I was after 3 months of goofy riding OW , not confident enough to ride in traffic yet. -
@lemur i always get Fakey and Switch confused, but i can ride for short (generally straight) distances Fakey on my snowboard. still haven't managed it on my Pint, though. i tried to learn for a few weeks back in the Before Times, but then decided that the way i ride, it's just fine if i only ride Regular. same with SimpleStop: i learned with it on, and i got used to it and like it, so i just decided to leave it on in the end.
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@franko Yeah, fakie is short end forward, I tried on steeper slopes, but always revert back to safety after 10-20 meters and tired of falling on my butt.
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@lemur just gotta go slow. ill bring my gnarliest board n wear something pink. i wore a bike helmet once n it was a big hit at the park.
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My little contribution to this off-topic:
switch = opposite to your natural stance
fakie = riding battery side forward, sensors back (while feet remaining on same pads respectively your stance type)
[While in skateboarding these mean higher science ...]
... in onewheeling implementing both of these terms is somewhat comprehensible.
I wouldn't see 'switch' in snowboarding due to boots clamped onto board. And I wouldn't imagine 'fakie' with surfboard due to its hydrodynamycs. But I might be short-sighted as not deeply involved in either sports. -
@sirgu based on your description, for both OW and snowboarding, then, i can ride Fakie (or Fakey?), i can't ride Switch.
