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    GT production update January 14/ 2022

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      Lemur @Lia last edited by

      @lia I posted this in my local FB group.
      " I went for a short ride on the "apex" setting, I have no idea what that is, but the torque is there. I can accelerate faster than my JW Xr and can fly up a fairly steep hill without the minor surging on the Xr. The treaded rounded tire is nimble like a Pint, the concave footpads feel good, but I do miss my Kush Hi. A modded XR is just as capable, at least for a person not carrying a too much weight. I will hold on to my XRs until there are no more parts. The Pint type mag handle actually helps carrying the GT with the extra weight."

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        Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Lemur last edited by

        @lemur This is extremely promising, hopium restored. Thanks for sharing that :)

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          Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY last edited by

          stitchhands over on reddit has taken their GT apart and it gives us a better idea on what's inside.
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          Personally really like what I'm seeing so far :D

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            Lemur @Lia last edited by

            @lia Very clean inside. I made some crude measurements of the motor width and it looks promising for the XR rotor exchange. There's a bit of variation in my measurements, but that may be due to the different contours of the hubs.
            I will pull the motor apart after riding the GT a bit to make sure there are no warranty problems. I have a Xr rotor with a fresh Hoosier ready to swap over.
            gt hub.jpg

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              Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Lemur last edited by

              @lemur Nice one taking those measurements. The hub plates will probably differ in depth, the Pint and XR ones are pretty different.

              Hope you have a good ride out. No rush to swap that hub since it sounds like these stock tires are built to last.

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                biell Plus GT DIY @Lemur last edited by

                @lemur I am very interested in your findings. When you do, can you also check to see if the GT motor plate fits on the XR/Plus Hub?

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                  NotSure XR Pint @Lemur last edited by

                  @lemur XR is faster than GT on Apex confirmed! click for video.

                  XR's got what plants crave!

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                    NotSure XR Pint @Lia last edited by

                    @lia said in GT production update January 14/ 2022:

                    hopium

                    we all know Leary's a skeptic. here's his opinion. talks about battery.

                    XR's got what plants crave!

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                      Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @NotSure last edited by

                      @notsure Still going to wait and base my opinions on what I get before watching these vids. I don't do tricks and speed isn't a concern for me so will see how I feel it rides really.

                      I expect it to ride differently but between weight, ride modes not being alike and the footpads altered I expect a lot of people won't truly lock in with it initially. Might explain a lot of the "wobbly" comments I've been seeing. I mean if anyone's gonna complain if it's wobbly it'll be me lol.

                      On another note I've been seeing a lot of ghosting posts crop up so might be worth tying a lead to the board in case it spots a squirrel as you dismount ;)

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                        OneDanGTS GT-S GT Pint X XR @Lia last edited by

                        @lia I'm the same kind of rider . . . just carving around 17 mph, mostly pavement and hard packed dirt and gravel, no tricks. Been riding the Pint X for a few days now and it definitely feels wobbly compared to my XR and I have a treaded Hoosier on instead of the round tire it came with. I really don't mind it TOO much and I'm starting to get used to keeping the speed under 15 mph with the aggressive pushback in the upper 16+ mph range. It's still fun, but not AS fun as my XR. Sounds like the GT will have more power/torque than the XR along with the carvey/wobbliness of the Pints. I'm a bit (ok, a lot) heavier than you at 185+ lbs, so hoping I can squish down the tire a bit so it's not as round, yet still get the 20+ mile range Jake's buddy in the video is getting (he's about the same weight as I am).

                        I can't help but watch the Float Life videos as I live right there and they're riding the GT on the EXACT paths that I ride (so fun to watch) . . . albeit, way more technically than me and hitting bumps and curbs that I simply go around!

                        GT-S > GT > Pint X > XR > +

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                          Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @OneDanGTS last edited by

                          @onedangt Agreed, Pint is very wobbly compared to the XR. First spin was laps on my carpet and although I appreciated the tighter turning circle it was quite the board to control.

                          With the range assuming Jake wasn't ripping hard on and offroad I wonder how FM got the 32mile number. Think once I get mine I'll be seeing if I can crush out 32miles on my usual "cruise" route that's not super brutal to give me the best chance of replicating some decent range.

                          I haven't weighed myself in years but last I checked I was 57kg (126lbs) but I've definitely put on some weight since then so probably a bit more since then. Totally muscle though... totally... >.>

                          Gotta see you do some laps on those trails then, see if you can line up your laps with theirs to see how you compare :D

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                            OneDanGTS GT-S GT Pint X XR @Lia last edited by

                            @lia said in GT production update January 14/ 2022:

                            Gotta see you do some laps on those trails then, see if you can line up your laps with theirs to see how you compare

                            Now THAT would be embarrassing!

                            GT-S > GT > Pint X > XR > +

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                              Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Lemur last edited by

                              @lemur Bob Nicholson has taken apart their GT and attempted an XR hub transplant only to find FM have indeed modified the stator... not for performance but seemingly just to not work.

                              Don't have the link to the video but Duhherroooo posted a screenshot on reddit.
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                              Bob Nicholson took apart the motor live. The magnets and bearings are the exact same size in the GT as XR and Pint. The only difference that doesnt allow it to work is the lip on the axle has been extended by around 1mm (where I circled) causing the motor lid to not fit

                              Now.... in theory if the lip is just extended by 1mm you could in theory slap it in a lathe and take that 1mm off but... not sure many of us have a big ass lathe laying around to turn that D:

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                                Lemur @Lia last edited by Lemur

                                @lia Just watching the live stream too. Doesn't look good. I have a lathe large enough, but may be a one way procedure.

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                                  Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Lemur last edited by

                                  @lemur True, using a spacer to revert could work but might also come with it's own issues.

                                  I'm sure some crazy floater will do it further down the line where parts are easier to come by.

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                                    Lemur @Lia last edited by

                                    @lia Wait and see for now, looks like something happened to his Gt, it started flashing red and the video feed cut out.

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                                      Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Lemur last edited by

                                      @lemur Oh damn that doesn't sound good. Hope everything is okay.
                                      I assume this livestream was on FB?

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                                        Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Lemur last edited by Lia

                                        @lemur Just been informed disconnecting the BMS bricks it!

                                        Edit: Confirmation
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                                          NotSure XR Pint @Lia last edited by

                                          @lia said in GT production update January 14/ 2022:

                                          @lemur Just been informed disconnecting the BMS bricks it!

                                          Edit: Confirmation
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                                          oh shit that's fucked now! thats really bad news... i'm guessing a cr2032 won't quite do it either. servicing just got way trickier.

                                          XR's got what plants crave!

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                                            Lemur @NotSure last edited by Lemur

                                            @notsure Maybe there is a procedure or "keep alive" dongle that keeps the controller/bms alive during servicing?

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