GT production update January 14/ 2022
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@lemur That's a little concerning. I wonder if that was an assembly error or the process changed and this is the "new normal".
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@notsure Im afraid when this kinda news will catch the attention of our anti-pev politicians (casically all of em are) there's gonna be an active hunt on all OW users.
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@notsure I saw this vid, was that posi'd???
Posi-ing a GT under current circumstances if a deathwish, not for the rider but some poor sod downwind.I have a few spare footpads, I may just find a way to use one of those instead. Was considering having my board on a rope for a while but thinking back to the days of owning a rottweiler and having it drag me round a field I may rethink attaching myself to 750w of feral electronics.
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@lia said in GT production update January 14/ 2022:
I saw this vid, was that posi'd???
i dont know actually but i reckon that dent n those children screaming "omg im so glad no one got hurt" was for good reason lol. its a completely new product. i think it may not be safe to treat it like an XR just yet. hopefully its just another fluke.
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@notsure At this rate I'll be treating it like a domesticated yet badly trained grizzly bear xD.
I assume the footpad connector is the same as the Pint. I might rig up a little testbed to put my footpad on and see how it reacts to various conditions like temperature, dismount and semi-dismount methods. I do have to get my hands on it first though.
At least this way I don't have to try it on a live environment where an actual failstate results in a single wheeled freight train hauling ass whichever way I left it.
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@lia I was thinking of a leash, but don't know if the GT would shut off if the board is tipped over on it's side. Our vesc boards can be programed to shut off anywhere from 0 to 90 degrees.
I'm also thinking of a wood or printed front footpad with less concave and using fsr 406 sensors. Those sensors have been performing flawlessly in my vescs and XR.
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I still have a couple of weeks before I get home to my GT, but I'm thinking I'll attach a leash to the rail or mag handle and hold it in my hand. When dismounting normally, I'll be ready to stop it as the force won't be TOO strong as it starts to take off. If I fall, at least I have a chance of knocking it over and maybe grab it before it figures out how to get away from me. I can also let go if it's just too much force, but I'd hope it doesn't come to that. Agree with @lia, I don't want it yanking me along with it, so I'm not gonna attach it to my ankle, LOL.
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Just had a chat with local (Netherlands) OW dealer. He's not expecting GT until May?! Did anyone in Europe receive a GT yet?
He mentioned "supply chain issues"..
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@maciak None that I'm aware of. FM keep pushing mine back 1-2 days each time mine ticks down shopping the next day.
Kinda stopped checking unless anyone asks me tbh, just going to wait D: -
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@maciak Oh no, I saw this earlier when things were calmer...yiiikes.
I've sent in some doots to try counter the brainrot <3
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@maciak said in GT production update January 14/ 2022:
@lia Pissed off lotsa people..
https://www.reddit.com/r/onewheel/comments/tg8f43/just_gonna_dump_this_here_3rd_batch_gt_mayjune/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share@MacIak you are the best, lol
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@lia Yea gets pretty awkward there, thanks;) I ve spoken to 2 independent major dealers and both gave me same info. They dont want any unit of the first 2 batches and dont take preorders. They were told that 3rd batch will have different HW. So they expect that in June. A 3rd dealer was more reserved and avoids the issue at all cost. But that one still advertises March/April on his site while he told me expecting 1st units in May....(edit: and this one took lotsa preorders;)
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@maciak That makes sense, retailers don't want to hold onto potential dead stock or worse something the customer wants a refund for when it goes wrong.
I do wonder if FM will add a small bonus for these delayed orders as a good will gesture. Or maybe send us something in the meantime.
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r/onewheel has just updated the banner. Long live the XR
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The GT is a pretty amazing board. The tire is way, way, way too hard, and I will be buying the first treaded aftermarket tire I can. I miss the softness, slow concave, and front/rear kick on my ElectricBigfoot pads. The pushback is a mixed bag, some better, some worse; but all-in-all probably a smidgen better. I still need to do a range test to see how it compares with my CBXR.
I only have 22mi on it so far, so we will have to see over time. Trail riding will be the true test for me. And, I have only hit a small trail so far as it is the only one that has been dry enough for me to go on without doing damage.
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Well, finally got back home and set up my firmware 6064 (one of the first shipped), treaded tire GT. First I made sure it turned on, multiple times, LOL. Manually tested the sensors, then charged it to full. Tested power on/off a few times more and installed my accessories. Here it is, ready to go:
Ahh, but what about ghosting? So, stepped on and did the heal lift a few times before going anywhere and it worked fine. I wasn't about to let someone get injured or lose my board into the river, so I rode with a spare dog leash attached to the rail. If it took off on me, figured I could knock it over with a little pull.
I think I'll ride with it a few more times until I feel it's safe. I did see that one that ghosted after 600 miles, but I think we're all hoping that's the exception to the rule.
Rode mostly in Skyline, which has plenty of power. Being an XR Delirium rider, I tried Apex, but the first wheel skirt after a small cement bump was freaky, could feel the board pull forward under me. Skyline is definitely comfortable and powerful. Pavement and smooth gravel were similar to the XR, but the GT was really comfortable in the rougher dirt/gravel areas. Where your feet would tend to bounce around on the XR, the concave footpads along with the added power really gives that locked in feeling. The concave footpads don't really feel more comfortable to me, just different. Seems like something to just get used to, but they do lock you in better. Forgot to check the tire pressure before I left, but checked just now and it was shipped at 26 psi! It does feel a bit higher off the ground and a couple of times after hitting some bumps, I felt like I was gonna fall over, but the power was able to rescue me. Up hills was like riding an XR on flats, it didn't even flinch and pulled right up like it was nothing!
I dropped the psi to 18 for my next ride, hoping that de-wobbles it just a bit. I mean, after riding the Pint X the last few weeks, I'm kinda used to a bit more carve-y ride anyway. All in all, went about 8 miles with over 70% left on the board, so thinking I should be able to comfortably get 25+ miles on a full charge (I'm 185 lbs).
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Contacted a local retailer about when they might be getting their boards in. Apparently they're expecting them around early June however that's not certain.
Asked FM too and they couldn't specify when they thought mine might arrive so I'll have to go with what the retailer estimated. It seems international shipping is still unclear.
The local retailer also confirmed their price of £2100 - £2160 is firm with free delivery which after checking the customs charges even with conservative values I'm spending like £200 more direct through FM at best. Worse still UPS has been caught adding unknown charges to invoices which considering recent circumstances I guarantee it'll cost much more than I was expecting back in October.
As such I've cancelled my order and have been refunded (minus the cost of the rail guards). Pretty bummed about it but this feels like the right decision. I'll possibly re-order at a later date through the local retailer however since that's still pre-order with no definitive dates anytime soon I'll wait till they actually have them before re-ordering. That being said if by the time they have them boards are still shipped DOA or with ghosting issues on the footpad I might skip this model and just focus on my XR till further notice.
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@lia Well, it's a bummer, but also probably the right thing to do. There is probably a pretty large backorder of international GTs, so if the dealers near you are thinking June, it's probably a toss up as to who would get it first, but the money you'd save would surely make it worthwhile.
The real bummer is not being able to get on one! I've been riding the GT exclusively (XR still not recharged from 45% since I got home). I like everything about it except the hard tire. I'm down to 15 psi now (I weigh about 185) and while it's now at an acceptable amount of wobbliness (or lack thereof), it still bounces off every little bump as though I'm riding on a round rock (like a Flintstone's tire)! LOL I do plan on riding the XR this week to compare, so will make a plan to keep/sell after that. I also have the coveted 4209!
But the torque and the lack of ANY surges or struggling of the board underneath me is such a different ride, not to mention the 25+ mile range for me. I actually have to plan a stop midway to rest my feet/legs. I switched from Highline to Apex for my last ride, as I ride my XR in Delirium, and I don't think I'll go back, it's just so responsive. Do to the rocky ride, I'm taking new paths carefully, but my old paths are feeling quite comfortable. Not sure I want to go much lower than 15 psi, but I may inch it down 1 or 2. As seen in TFL how low can it go vid, seems the tire is just hard and no amount of low psi is gonna soften it up.
Best of luck getting a GT under your feet!