GT production update January 14/ 2022
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@lia Yea gets pretty awkward there, thanks;) I ve spoken to 2 independent major dealers and both gave me same info. They dont want any unit of the first 2 batches and dont take preorders. They were told that 3rd batch will have different HW. So they expect that in June. A 3rd dealer was more reserved and avoids the issue at all cost. But that one still advertises March/April on his site while he told me expecting 1st units in May....(edit: and this one took lotsa preorders;)
Aka "Vommbat"
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@maciak That makes sense, retailers don't want to hold onto potential dead stock or worse something the customer wants a refund for when it goes wrong.
I do wonder if FM will add a small bonus for these delayed orders as a good will gesture. Or maybe send us something in the meantime.
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r/onewheel has just updated the banner. Long live the XR
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The GT is a pretty amazing board. The tire is way, way, way too hard, and I will be buying the first treaded aftermarket tire I can. I miss the softness, slow concave, and front/rear kick on my ElectricBigfoot pads. The pushback is a mixed bag, some better, some worse; but all-in-all probably a smidgen better. I still need to do a range test to see how it compares with my CBXR.
I only have 22mi on it so far, so we will have to see over time. Trail riding will be the true test for me. And, I have only hit a small trail so far as it is the only one that has been dry enough for me to go on without doing damage.
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Well, finally got back home and set up my firmware 6064 (one of the first shipped), treaded tire GT. First I made sure it turned on, multiple times, LOL. Manually tested the sensors, then charged it to full. Tested power on/off a few times more and installed my accessories. Here it is, ready to go:
Ahh, but what about ghosting? So, stepped on and did the heal lift a few times before going anywhere and it worked fine. I wasn't about to let someone get injured or lose my board into the river, so I rode with a spare dog leash attached to the rail. If it took off on me, figured I could knock it over with a little pull.
I think I'll ride with it a few more times until I feel it's safe. I did see that one that ghosted after 600 miles, but I think we're all hoping that's the exception to the rule.
Rode mostly in Skyline, which has plenty of power. Being an XR Delirium rider, I tried Apex, but the first wheel skirt after a small cement bump was freaky, could feel the board pull forward under me. Skyline is definitely comfortable and powerful. Pavement and smooth gravel were similar to the XR, but the GT was really comfortable in the rougher dirt/gravel areas. Where your feet would tend to bounce around on the XR, the concave footpads along with the added power really gives that locked in feeling. The concave footpads don't really feel more comfortable to me, just different. Seems like something to just get used to, but they do lock you in better. Forgot to check the tire pressure before I left, but checked just now and it was shipped at 26 psi! It does feel a bit higher off the ground and a couple of times after hitting some bumps, I felt like I was gonna fall over, but the power was able to rescue me. Up hills was like riding an XR on flats, it didn't even flinch and pulled right up like it was nothing!
I dropped the psi to 18 for my next ride, hoping that de-wobbles it just a bit. I mean, after riding the Pint X the last few weeks, I'm kinda used to a bit more carve-y ride anyway. All in all, went about 8 miles with over 70% left on the board, so thinking I should be able to comfortably get 25+ miles on a full charge (I'm 185 lbs).
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Contacted a local retailer about when they might be getting their boards in. Apparently they're expecting them around early June however that's not certain.
Asked FM too and they couldn't specify when they thought mine might arrive so I'll have to go with what the retailer estimated. It seems international shipping is still unclear.
The local retailer also confirmed their price of £2100 - £2160 is firm with free delivery which after checking the customs charges even with conservative values I'm spending like £200 more direct through FM at best. Worse still UPS has been caught adding unknown charges to invoices which considering recent circumstances I guarantee it'll cost much more than I was expecting back in October.
As such I've cancelled my order and have been refunded (minus the cost of the rail guards). Pretty bummed about it but this feels like the right decision. I'll possibly re-order at a later date through the local retailer however since that's still pre-order with no definitive dates anytime soon I'll wait till they actually have them before re-ordering. That being said if by the time they have them boards are still shipped DOA or with ghosting issues on the footpad I might skip this model and just focus on my XR till further notice.
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@lia Well, it's a bummer, but also probably the right thing to do. There is probably a pretty large backorder of international GTs, so if the dealers near you are thinking June, it's probably a toss up as to who would get it first, but the money you'd save would surely make it worthwhile.
The real bummer is not being able to get on one! I've been riding the GT exclusively (XR still not recharged from 45% since I got home). I like everything about it except the hard tire. I'm down to 15 psi now (I weigh about 185) and while it's now at an acceptable amount of wobbliness (or lack thereof), it still bounces off every little bump as though I'm riding on a round rock (like a Flintstone's tire)! LOL I do plan on riding the XR this week to compare, so will make a plan to keep/sell after that. I also have the coveted 4209!
But the torque and the lack of ANY surges or struggling of the board underneath me is such a different ride, not to mention the 25+ mile range for me. I actually have to plan a stop midway to rest my feet/legs. I switched from Highline to Apex for my last ride, as I ride my XR in Delirium, and I don't think I'll go back, it's just so responsive. Do to the rocky ride, I'm taking new paths carefully, but my old paths are feeling quite comfortable. Not sure I want to go much lower than 15 psi, but I may inch it down 1 or 2. As seen in TFL how low can it go vid, seems the tire is just hard and no amount of low psi is gonna soften it up.
Best of luck getting a GT under your feet!
GT-S > GT > Pint X > XR > +
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@onedangt I feel it is, thanks for the comforting :)
Fingers crossed all the kinks are sorted out before June. Apparently manufactuing for the footpads has been updated so seems like they might have fixed the ghosting moving forward (fingers crossed, we're lucky nothing hugely bad has happened yet). The shipping issue might have actually saved FM so much grief with international returns.I wasn't keen on the tire reviews. After enjoying the Hoosier slick D20 for the past few days I can safely say I don't fancy going back to something stock. That said with @Lemur's modifications and a handful of 3rd parties giving it a go a hub swap might be a possibility for getting better rubber on your board soon.
Will admit I would love the responsiveness. My 4208 is actually less responsive than a 4206 for some reason. It's subtle but I can feel the difference. When I can get my hands one one it will be a huge plus not having to baby some hills or popping up a curb.
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@lia Let me know if you ever want to convert your GT to an XR rim later on, I can send you a shim and/or a centering kit .
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@lemur Really appreciate the offer :)
I bet if you had the time you could churn a few out and make some money for your effort to machine these. -
@lia I'm really not interested in selling as it takes away from me moving on to another project. I rather give it away, but that's just me.
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@lemur Pretty much how I am with projects. Do something then release it out into the wild so I can move onto something else. Happy to hear I’m in good company :)
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@onedangt said in GT production update January 14/ 2022:
Not sure I want to go much lower than 15 psi, but I may inch it down 1 or 2
Sooooo, I dropped the psi down to 14 today and can't believe that the ultra hardness seems to be much improved. I can still hear the small cracks in the pavement, but don't really feel them anymore. Could be the tire wearing in finally (I'm just over 150 miles) or maybe the 10 degree warmer weather today, but nothing else changed. I hit some familiar dirt paths and it was more well behaved on those as well. Rode 22 miles and never got off the board, with very little fatigue.
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Yesterday being waiting since November, I wanted to cancel my GT order and I requested via mail. Curiosly, today for the first time my order is in production, and 6 days prior to yesterday's date...
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FM can't even get things right when they do good things. This is the text of my email:
Tires for all Onewheel models can now be purchased separately.
This is what the website looks like:
Can anyone see what is missing??? Apparently all Onewheels doesn't include the OG, Plus, or XR. And, I am supposed to trust them to support me without RTR for what reason again? What amazes me is that, how they work, they didn't even think of doing this. It would have been soooooooo easy just to throw a Vega up there, but nobody probably even noticed that it was missing.
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didn't know where else to put this, but i ran into the first person i've seen with a GT out in the wild today. I was eating lunch as a local bar/restaurant, and this guy rides up on one with a little kid, him on the GT, his son on an OG Pint. They were also with a friend on an electric long board. Anyway, i just HAD to go up and ask him what he thought about the GT. the longboard friend rolled his eyes and said, "Ohhh, DUDE" and laughed, and his friend with the GT said "You're the second person today to ask me. i LOVE this thing -- and it's my first day on it! it only has like a 30 miles on it."
he said he originally rode his son's Pint and likes it, but he's a bigger guy -- i think he said he weighs 260 lbs -- so the Pint just couldn't power him up hills, but it was perfect for his son. he said the GT has NO problems with him being a big dude. he was all smiles. Just wanted to let you all know that there's GTs out there and people are having a ball with them.
Sage OG Pint (Battleborn Floater)
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@franko Mine just turned 700 miles and I can vouch for the fun factor! It was one of the first ones shipped, so I was worried a bit, especially since I had just left for a 3 week vacation the day it arrived. Worked perfectly, but after 300 miles I had them ship me a new front pad "just in case". Rode my XR once a few weeks in, but decided to sell it since I wasn't really using it much at all. I've never been a fast rider, but my daily rides always top out at between 19 to 20 mph whereas on the XR top speed was normally under 18.
GT-S > GT > Pint X > XR > +
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@onedangt yeah, this guy said he has/had an XR too, and that what he really loves about the GT is that it has the maneuverability of the Pint, but the range of the XR, plus the extra power to get him up hills and over any terrain. while i love my OG Pint, i admit i'm a little lusty over the GT.
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@franko Where I am now, my CBXR is my trail board (and it keeps raining on the weekends, so not getting much love) and my GT is everything else. The GT doesn't get the same range as my CBXR, but it is so much more fun to ride b/c of the new GT pushback. I'm a little past 500 miles.
I don't know what's going to happen when I do my Plus/GT hub swap and get ElectricBigfoot Hoverpads for the GT, it is going to be hard not to ride all the time.
