£500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?
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Funny, both of my nosedives were on my + . . . first at 90 miles going maybe 5 mph, pushed down too fast from a dead stop . . . second at 600 miles getting too randy and went down at 21 mph, ouch. But I digress, I sold my 1600 mile + with treaded tire and CF mag fender for $600 years ago after I got my XR.
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@onedangt said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
. . getting too randy and went down.
Has the meaning of the word Randy changed?
☺️Sometimes I push the speed boundary when a good song comes on, can't say I've had that reaction though.
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I bought it :D
Was relisted to £450 (Paid my sis the £50 to drive me there and back though). Figured if it got any cheaper someone else might pick it up.
Rides fine and that Trail Pro is very nice. Seller was really nice too :) He was looking to get into skateboarding, biking etc and wanted to fund the hobbies while maybe getting a GT in the near future. Apparently some of the accessories were from a TFL competition he won which was pretty cool too. Kinda sad to buy it from him though since I sensed an attachment to the board. Only thing I can say is this is one board that's been saved from being parted out or getting demolished.
Diagnostics page for those playing along at home.
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@lia -- That is a very nice looking Plus!
-- Great display!
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@s-leon Thanks :) It's a very nice board. First ride I thought I was hitting LVC pushback till I went in the app and saw I was defaulted into Sequoia. Second time that ride mode has caught me out.
Currently trying to remove a busted bumper bolt. The threaded insert is loose and the head has been removed presumably to try remove it. Put some glue onto the insert by surgically dripping it in hopefully to fasten it enough to remove the bolt.
Definitely a fine collection so far. Left a space in the stands only to have filled it already. Oops :)
Edit : Me 2 hours later
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@lia This is a common problem with Plus'. I usually pull the screw out as far as I can get it, then chop it off with my dremmel, then push it back in as far as possible, then work the controller box out.
After that, I usually set a new insert with epoxy. I haven't had a repaired one fail on me yet.
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@biell Good shout, going for that. My glue doesn't bond metal well apparently.
Wonder what they changed since they look similar to the XR which I haven't seen occur on the 3 controllers I've looked at.
Edit: That did it, didn't have my Dremel to hand so just gradually increased my drill bit till I bored out the entirety of it while not trashing the rail. Managed to undo the bolt after pulling it all free and looks like there was some yellow Loctite in there.
Also noticed one of the fender bolts were not seated. Turns out the lower threads we trashed so redid those. Been years since I had to re-thread the fender mounts on a board.
Noticed the upper fender bolts were missing too on re-assembly but I have a bunch of spares so will put that back together later :) Been nice to tune a board again, haven't had to do stuff like this since early on owning the XR.
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@lia said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
Wonder what they changed since they look similar to the XR which I haven't seen occur on the 3 controllers I've looked at.
I agree, I have been waiting for that shoe to drop on my XR, but it doesn't. Maybe just tighter QC or maybe the holes are smaller before they hot install the insert?
I once also set one with Gorilla Glue when I didn't want to open a new epoxy just to mix a tiny bit for this. It also held. I left the screw threaded in there overnight, so the glue wouldn't expand up into the bottom of the insert.
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@biell said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
Maybe just tighter QC or maybe the holes are smaller before they hot install the insert?
That might be the case. I bet they made it smaller on both the controller and bumper which then caused the XR bumpers to split for being too small. That might be it!
I just outright removed those bumper one on the XR after mine split completely. The controller ones on the Plus I'll put back since those kinda hold the bumper on whilst the top ones make removing the bumper a pain because you need to lift the pad.
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@lia said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
Left a space in the stands only to have filled it already. Oops :)
Sure suuuuuuure, like you didn't plan to fill it! . . . Might want to add another spot, I have a nice looking XR that's not getting much floating since I got my GT that you could add to your collection, LOL.
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@onedangt Aha busted. I'll admit the GT was meant to occupy the spot, then when I cancelled it I figured it'd be spare at least a little bit longer either filled with a GT later or a custom board.
Was tempted to change up the appearance of the Plus but after getting the feeling the guy was still attached to it I think I'll keep it as is. Maybe they'll see it in a post/video one day and smile seeing it still rolling.
Good to hear you're getting lots of usage out of the GT, is it wearing in nicely?
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@lia Well, I took the XR for a ride a couple days ago and all the feelings of not enough torque came back really quick, especially when hitting obstacles and going uphill. I'm keeping it for now, but the GT is just so much more fun to ride, not to mention the range! I also noticed foot fatigue from the flatter XR pads, but could just be I'm getting more used to the concave pads. I can go for 20+ miles on the GT, never getting off the board whereas on the XR I was hurting after 7 miles or so. I do recall going 12+ miles on the XR non-stop, but still had some foot pain.
The GT is breaking in nicely, I have about 350 miles on it. The rougher ride is still noticeable, but the tire is carving better as it ages. I've tried down to 14 psi, but ended up at about 17 (I weigh 185 lbs) as a compromise between tire wear, mileage, and ride-ability.
As for my XR, it's got almost 7200 miles on it but looks about as nice as the + you just bought! I do mostly cruising and some off road, but nothing that will knock me off the board, lol. At least not intentionally. Has original bearings, but still rides as smooth as when I got it. The first battery lasted 1900 miles, at which point I had FM replace it. The second battery is still going strong, so 5300 miles and counting, and almost as much range as when it was installed. Just goes to show, one bad cell!
Actually haven't decided to sell my desirable 4209 XR, but if I do I'll let folks on this forum have first dibs. :)
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@onedangt I can imagine. Lots of riders saying they don't worry about nosedives thanks to the extra torque and more obvious pushback. Stock concave was a good move especially for people like me that don't change stuff till they brake.
Sounds good, do you feel it's "top heavy" as I've heard some suggest? I kinda get what they mean but not actually sure if it's actually something noticable.
7200 miles is a lot and to look as good as that I'm impressed. Looking fresh~ :D Happy to hear your bearings are still holding out. Mine are stock too and don't seem to be going anywhere soon. Still on my stock pack but it is in dire need of replacing. 4208 but I haven't surrendered the bad cell curse apparently.
Appreciate you giving the forum first dibs if you do choose to sell it. It'll certainly find a welcoming home knowing us lot.
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@lia said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
do you feel it's "top heavy" as I've heard some suggest?
I'd describe it more as lifted, but similar to my X that I was riding on vacation even with the Hoosier on the X. Add in the tire hardness and you bounce around more, but the extra torque (apex only for me, as was delirium) is so much more forgiving and the grip is so good, that I think I've only lost my stance twice since I got it.
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@Lia eager for expanding ur collection a little more?
There's a near pristine 4211 XR on sale in UK. 6 miles [~9,5km], 1200€ [~1005£/~1265$] -
@onedangt that looks amazing for 7200mi., you must not ride the trails Dax does.
def let us know if you let it go I'm interested since my og 4209 started throwing error 21. -
@sirgu Aha don't tempt me. I think I saw that one, amazing price if legit. I think I'll stick to rescuing busted boards. Cheaper and fun to work on. That and I'm still after a GT eventually, the FOMO is real.
Been really enjoying just rolling round on the Plus. Feels different to the XR but not sure how much of that is the tire vs the battery characteristics. Bearings sound a bit dry so will be greasing those up when I get it apart again to replace those missing bolts and inserts.
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@lia The Plus definitely has less power, you should be able to feel it. It rides like an XR, only weaker. That is why I always toy with the idea of growlering my Plus, the smaller wheel would pep it up a bit.
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@biell Agreed, I did notice on my first ride that instead of reaching pushback I was nearly nosediving through it when taking it on my usual XR ride but with the Plus instead. Had to adjust how many beans I gave certain corners and obstacles ;)
However the actual feel of the ride is different but in a good way that I don't think is just the tire. I know my XR feels sluggish compared to other XR's so might be me just noticing that. Regardles very fun to ride and happy to have it part of the family.
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@lia said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
I'm still after a GT eventually, the FOMO is real.
I can vouch for this, I've only ridden my XR once since I got the GT. I just feel so much safer on the GT, even though I tend to cruise around at 18/19 mph! There always seems to be extra torque in the tank, so to speak, to keep the board under your feet. My Pint X is gonna feel so slow with the 16 mph hard pushback when I get back to it in May.
@b0ardski said in £500 ($650) a good price for a Plus?:
def let us know if you let it go I'm interested
I'm on the verge of making the decision. And you're right, I'm not much of a trail rider. My trails are 80% paved bike paths with 20% mostly hard pack dirt and gravel. I think I've done maybe 5 curb drops ever and I really don't bonk or nudge unless absolutely necessary, LOL. I'll post right here if I decide to sell. Probably the best buyer would be in the US so shipping would be reasonable.