BadgerSense and other aftermarket discussion
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@notsure -- Why not BadgerSense? -- Well, cost is one factor. Another is installation, Positaps to the appropriate wires, fitting and routing. Then, will it just confirm what the board is already telling me? And/or will it give me a more elusive red limit to push? Hmmm...
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Positaps seem to be there for FM warranty friendly purposes. Personally I'd go for more fixed wire connection solutions straight away.
@s-leon said in Aftermarket Soup:
... And/or will it give me a more elusive red limit to push? Hmmm...
I do not have a position on this matter. As I'm not pushing the limits.
I got carried away of idea its all a sort of "hands free" solution and smth that's not dependent on phone app.
[Sry, I'm not native on english. Trying hard to convey what I mean, lol.]
BadgerSense = 3in1 standalone
Meaning... speed + battery level + power usage/reserve is all right there if ever you give a glance. The same easy as taking a look on smartwatch. The times when watches jet had standalone apps for OW. -
@b0ardski said :
... I love its shape better than any other ...
I second! The reason why Contour got included into my first list of accessories.
@NotSure said :
... if ur into fangs, v3 fang bumper is really well made.
Strangely enough my v3's is still in box. Because v2.1 wheel diameter gives more stand off. And maybe I'm coward. :P
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@sirgu said in Aftermarket Soup:
[Sry, I'm not native on english. Trying hard to convey what I mean, lol.]
ur doing fine. @Lia spells "color" with a "u" and "tire" with a "y" n we still understand her.
"aluminium"? why not just add more syllables? maybe some silent letters too? "ahlumignyum"... smh.
XR's got what plants crave!
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@NotSure Oi!
Tbf I'll grant you the "U" is dumb and I'd like if we just dropped it. Also I've started spelling tire properly (because who TF thought a Y was sensible). However... Aluminium is staying!@Sirgu said :
And maybe I'm coward. :P
You and me both, although I don't have the courage to even put fangs up front as I know even if they do their job I'll over-react and fall off anyway.
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Mainly because I'm still not sure if I want to modify my new-used XR with a VnR, I'm trying to make a carve power-style charger with one of those green solar power converter box thingies. We'll see how that goes.
Question though: Is it really THIS EASY to VnR an XR? (If you don't mind riding without the app) I mean, that's redonkulous that you don't even have to take stuff apart besides that little plastic hatch!
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@angusofstockholm -- Yes, it is that easy to VnR; I have done it to two V1s and two Pluses. And then I have ridden with the green booster feeding in while riding, too -- it works fine, although downhill regen added to the booster amperage can cause overcurrent shutdown even miles into the ride, so be careful.
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@s-leon Wow! That's a crazy price for the BadgerSense. I'm not a software guy, but maybe someone here can make a power/speed sensor that activates a vibrator like a cell phone vibrator that warns when the board is approaching it's limit.
A vibrator in a cell phone is a small motor with a offset weight but a little bit bigger for a Onewheel.
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@s-leon Ok. I VnR'd my Pint and it was great until eventually some water got to my BMS. That Pint mod involved disassembling and drilling and ugh! Now I recently badgered my XR, but it doesn't seem like I'd need to break the seal on anything. Bonus!
I have a raft of 60v batteries, so if it's really just tap-n-go, I'm really tempted. :)
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@angusofstockholm said in Aftermarket Soup:
That Pint mod involved disassembling and drilling and ugh!
i emailed the gt40 mod guys n asked them to provide their pint vnr wiring harness as a standalone product. it looks like a slick little piece of hardware.
XR's got what plants crave!
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@notsure said in Aftermarket Soup:
i emailed the gt40 mod guys n asked them to provide their pint vnr wiring harness as a standalone product.
yup it's confirmed! they're working on it as we speak! pretty cool.
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Here is a link to a BadgerSense YouTube video and a description of the product as posted by Matt Donatello yesterday:
Got some real-world footage of the BadgerSense from BadgerWheel in action today! Here's a quick rundown of what everything means:
BLUE: Battery gage, using less than 80 of available motor power
GREEN: Using 80 or greater of available motor power
RED: How much of the last 20 is being used
If the RED fills up completely, nosedive is imminent.
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Oh sh!t. For a ~week now, (I guess) not a single day have passed without thinking 'n sniffing about BadgerSense for a minute, at least.
@s-leon you will not leave me an exception today either. X]-Great video footage! Shame there was not any steep hill climb throughout his 17 minutes - would have loved to see more urgent green-to-red ratio change with slower speeds.
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I watched another BadgerSense video, this one by Nico Aleman -- highly respected rider and commentor. He says he likes it a lot, and is using the BadgerSense to hone Onewheel racing skills -- trying to ride in the yellow/orange, not quite at the edge of the red. He says it is surprisingly difficult to do, and that a lot of the time pushing the board there is more depth of battery available than he would have guessed.
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Oh! And I saw that Matt Donatello, the rider who posted the first video that I linked above, did not keep his BadgerSense. It did not fit his style of riding (or something similar to that) he said. (Edit: Actually Matt Donatello said he was getting false readings; in reply Robert Allen said that recent versions have tweaked software to rectify low speed "coasting" readings -- and seems to have worked with Matt to Matt's satisfaction.)
Still thinking about it, I am. Riding relaxedly on Saturday I was still over 20mph with my Plus. Closely reading the Q&A's on the Badgerwheel website I see that BadgerSense will work with a Plus, as well as XRs, and that it will work with "any battery."
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Hmmm... Having see-sawed on this decision a long time, I think I definitely will order a BadgerSense in the near future -- because riding my Ignite Lifted Plus today in two sessions with two different 10ah EGO batteries, I hit high speeds of 23.4 mph and 23.2 mph without trying. And my high on my Kiil Suspension Plus is similar, 23.5 mph.
These speeds up and over 20 mph just feel good and natural to me, not seeming like I am pushing right to the edge of an abyss. Wind in my face I have been tempted to coax a little more out of the board. However, am I dancing like with abandon and courting disaster? The BadgersSense should tell me whether I am experiencing a false sense of security, or whether I really am within the board and battery's limits.
And the cost? Yes, expensive...
But -- from experience -- not as much as doctors and hospital visits cost.Edit: My BadgerSense is now ordered, Thursday evening, March 17, 2022.
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@s-leon I agree, might be a worthwhile investment just to make sure you can empirically see when you're approaching a danger zone.
I'm in awe that you can comfortably ride 20+mph, very impressive :) I used to hit that point but after my first accident I instinctively never seem to break 18mph even when I'm not paying attention.
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One other, hopefully minor, issue with installing BadgerSense is the rail obstruction of the Ignite Lift Kit or the Kiil Suspension. I think I will need to add a "false rail" surface somehow on which to mount the LED indicator strip.
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One of the reasons I have now ordered the BadgerSense is to keep me out of trouble with speed. In the meantime, while I await its delivery, I have come up with a method to slow myself down. Stacking two dense eight pounds each EGO 10ah batteries on top of each other strapped on the wooden fender of my Ignite Lifted Plus on top of the Skyjacker rails makes it FEEL like I am right at the edge of control at several miles per hour less.
Side story: When I was young and had little means I drove a rattletrap 1963 VW Bug. Living in Colorado in the 1980's I would leave the sunroof open all the time, because in the rare rains the rainwater would simply leak and pour out of the rusted holes in the floor. In that car seventy miles per hour really FELT FAST and exciting!!!
Some years before that I had a little ten year old, featherweight 1965 Honda S90 (Street 90) motorbike which could reach 70mph on the straight and level with 140lb. me riding it -- and that FELT really FAST and exciting, too!!! One dark night on a country road the headlight burned out probably at about 50mph -- pitch black!!! Oh my! Simply let off the throttle I did, knowing the road was going straight there. Another time the clutch cable broke at the handle... So, I wrapped it around my fist, pulling to change gears in Los Angeles.
