VESC configuration, what is your ideal VESC budget/configuration with BOM?
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@swinefeaster yeah i dont blame you. considering how hard u ride i would prefer something reliable. those kiilguards are sweet tho. PnP vesc is coming. no fiddling ever again (hopefully). almost makes too much sense.
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@notsure lol even when pnp vesc is a fact it will be far from trouble free. Sooo much work to be done. I simply can't waterproof my board cause i gotta open it up all the time for all kinds of reasons. Failing components being just a part of it.
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@maciak PnP vesc on the hardware side may be viable, but pnp with a preprogrammed vesc will lead to litigation.
I've been through many vesc firmwares and the present one from Surf and VM's setting are the best to date, but still a work in progress.
I can change settings now with the Vesc tool for ios (new app) since I have a Iphone. The mobile Vesc tool was only for android previously. I had to remove the footpad before to change settings, now I can change settings while on a test ride and see what each change does. -
@notsure I actually meant litigation from injured people on pnp vecs boards. If you sell a preprogrammed vesc controller and someone gets injured then perhaps you can get sued.
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@lemur said in XR Error 16 (repaired):
@notsure I actually meant litigation from injured people on pnp vecs boards. If you sell a preprogrammed vesc controller and someone gets injured then perhaps you can get sued.
ah i see. yeah for sure lol! thats a certainty tho. thats going to happen regardless.
XR's got what plants crave!
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@notsure
To start with i have been testing Surf's unreleased firmwares for over a year now. So lots of times it would be too much to handle for the board integrity or components as i pushed it to limits and had interesting findings to tweak. Atm the newest fw works awesome but now it's more about hardware configuration, limitations and fitment.
Now the lfoc3 canbus ic died. Not certain the ennoid bms killed it or not. If so, we're looking at trouble when the TORque packs ship out cause they all will work with the ennoid.
I might receive an 84v capable rEscue soon, so then it's looking at how to fit this in the box and make it work over canbus along with the bms....continuous wip.Aka "Vommbat"
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@lemur The newest fw is awesome. Still got a test file with the yaw based turntilt but as rain continues can't test it. I honestly do like a loose board that makes the rider work a bit too;) so not sure if i will use that option. Opening my board is more hardware related atm, getting the components to work reliable and figure ways to make the unit as robust as possible.
I said it before: we still need to find out how long/well a (properly) assembled and configured Vesc board will hold. Basically we have no MTBF yet.. -
@maciak said in XR Error 16 (repaired):
I said it before: we still need to find out how long/well a (properly) assembled and configured Vesc board will hold. Basically we have no MTBF yet..
Do you have the feeling that will not hold well? I have no reason too think that the lfoc3 could be at the level of a onewheel circuitry. It is supposed that shaman is crazy testing his stuff. oobviously there are more components but this is the heart. Not talking about the Ennnoid BS, because this guy is just nuts... and I would keep it out of the discussion.
Maybe the weaker part could be the boxes? -
@ed_co For starters my can-IC died. Why? This should not be easy to mess up. Flux on discord messed up 4 of them until he found out it was a faulty BT module.
Soon we will start a guinea-pig offensive on Field weakening. That's right; pad up, go out and take it like a champ for the team. So not sure what this will do to the focer.
Note for the ones not aware: Field weakening uses the back-EMF of the motor to overclock the rpm of the hub. Today i tested it without load @ 85% max dutycycle.
Without it the board reaches 48kph (i have done 46.8 while riding and hit pushback there at 85% dutycycle).
Using field weakening the board reaches 64kph at same dutycycle!!Also im not a big fan of the jst-ph connectors. The plugs become lame after some unplug/replugs and they hang upside-down so...
Soon i will try rEscue. Provided i can make it fit, also not known if this will mess with the focer.
BMS: It is important this thing can at least show us cell balance status and pack temperature. But who will make a usable one?
Battery: will the vesc really protect pack as setup? How long will it last until cells start to degrade?
Hub: How long will the hypercore be able to take the vesc-style control?
All together as a system any of these components can degrade it instantly. There is zero fail-safe and coasting is no option so...time will tell.
The boxes..they will improve as people test different materials. Sometime soon we might find a usable filament. Im not into this so will consume once it's out there.
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@maciak said in VESC configuration, what is your ideal VESC budget/configuration with BOM?:
Atm the newest fw works awesome but now it's more about hardware configuration, limitations and fitment.
so here's a noob question: are all the parts there? software wise i mean?
like did permuting drive configurations using the existing vesc 5.x software (or whatever it is) actually solve all the emulation problems?
no extra onewheel-specific plugins or addons required?
just a regular ole' vesc?
XR's got what plants crave!
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@notsure btw i just realized i was a bonehead. this forum does some weird shit with interleaving threads so sorry i went off on you about tangentizing the erro 16 thread with vesc, cause you werent :)
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@swinefeaster said in VESC configuration, what is your ideal VESC budget/configuration with BOM?:
this forum does some weird shit with interleaving threads
i think lia did some housekeeping. dont worry about it.
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@notsure Regular vesc, load newest 5.3 firmware, upload an XML, run motor wizard, adjust couple parameters, go.
I still don't have lights, don't know if the rEscue will fit.
Aka "Vommbat"
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@maciak said in VESC configuration, what is your ideal VESC budget/configuration with BOM?:
I still don't have lights, don't know if the rEscue will fit.
ill carry a torch.
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@notsure lol that's what i thought too. But i miss the lights for quick rides where i just need to be seen by other traffic.
