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    • Lia
      Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Puzz360 last edited by

      @puzz360 That worked out nicely then :)

      Not sure if I'm preaching to the choir but worth sharing the info juuuuuuust in case.
      When doing the headlight swap it might be worth making sure that little ferrite ring is secure or outright replacing it with a custom shielded cable like from Bobs Stoke Shop. Save the headache of having to fix that later when it inevitably breaks free and destroys the cable or worse kill the controller like it did to Nate Fordged once.

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      • Puzz360
        Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @Lia last edited by

        @lia thanks Lia,

        All tips gratefully received and taken on board (no pun intended) ;) no matter how many times it’s mentioned, it may just help someone….

        I will certainly double check the cable again, but when I took the thing apart to check initially a couple of years ago, I think I depleted worldwide hot glue stocks sticking down the ferrite core after checking the cable lol.

        This time see the pictures I’ve just taken of the headlight

        Red LED’s ok… white LED’s have the middle one dim when they light. The outer 2 are obscured by fangs but are lit correctly.
        Under normal running they randomly flash on and off, more off than on…

        A66973AD-12DB-4760-975E-05DE87940545.jpeg DB173C6D-CA54-43E3-83B5-16B879D56212.jpeg

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          fixlik last edited by

          So, for anyone still interested. I went the hard way. Bought hot air gun for soldering (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000525251154.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.56.54461802pp4gyG) and replaced leds myself (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32382405158.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.40.54461802pp4gyG - white variant). Seems like a good fit, front and rear led strips white leds shines about the same intensity.

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            fixlik @fixlik last edited by

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            • Lia
              Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @fixlik last edited by

              @fixlik Great work finding those LEDs. How are they holding up?

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                fixlik @Lia last edited by

                @lia Well, I had one ride since repair and have my XR listed for sale, so I'm afraid I will not be able to report that..

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                • Puzz360
                  Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @fixlik last edited by

                  @fixlik said in XR front LED’s identity:

                  So, for anyone still interested. I went the hard way.

                  Thanks for the info. Only just seen the update.

                  Well done for sorting out your LED’s @fixlik

                  I ended up buying a new strip. With this info I could repair my old strip.

                  Update to follow.

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                    Ando last edited by

                    OK... slight tangent, but still fairly relevant to headlight failure in general.

                    Was experiencing flickering and dim white light up front so I opted to open the controller for diagnosis.

                    Zero signs of water damage (board was badgered before I tore it open), solder joints look "fine", and the ferrite ring wasn't pulling the connector bodies off the PCB (but it was squashing the controller side connector). So no smoking gun. Boo...

                    So, before I start replacing things and adding solder willy-nilly, I'd like to test the PCBA in isolation. Does anyone know the pinout and power requirements for the XR headlight circuit off hand?

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                    • Puzz360
                      Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @Ando last edited by Puzz360

                      @Ando
                      I have recently replaced both the led strip and the cable (shielded type). My LEDs are still flickering. :(
                      Maybe you have the same issue as me ?

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                        Ando @Puzz360 last edited by Ando

                        @puzz360

                        I'm bummed to hear that. I've got a local shop ready to diagnose/repair, but I'm starting to contemplate how much it's worth to me.

                        I opened the controller for two reasons, to look for a quick fix, and to ensure the ferrite ring wasn't about to fry my controller. My controller is now safe, so I may just close it back up without a headlight and call it a day, the trails are calling.

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                        • Lia
                          Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Puzz360 last edited by

                          @puzz360 I had similar. Turned out I had a cracked solder joint on the actual connector so you might have luck just redoing the joints :)

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                            Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @Ando last edited by

                            @ando I am with you on that one… I’ve been running with lights off for a while now.
                            Next time I’m due for a tyre change I may well open up the controller again and check @Lia’s recommendation of a solder joint issue on the main pcb.
                            Will post a video of the issue here I think…

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                            • Puzz360
                              Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @Lia last edited by

                              @lia I hope it’s something relatively straightforward like that. Cheers.

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                              • Lia
                                Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Puzz360 last edited by

                                @puzz360 said in XR front LED’s identity:

                                I may well open up the controller again and check @Lia’s recommendation of a solder joint issue on the main pcb.

                                My break was led side but good to redo both

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                                  Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @Lia last edited by

                                  @lia see attached link

                                  Short video here

                                  If that works....

                                  The LEDs go off when pressure is applied to the sensor (either one) they are very faintly on at times too.
                                  Generally they don't come back on while it's stationary but they can do.... Quite random.

                                  Not easy to capture without riding....

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                                    Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Puzz360 last edited by

                                    @puzz360 That’s much weirder than expected. Tapping the pads engages the full brightness. I wonder if the drivers are becoming overloaded somehow.

                                    If you rotate the wheel a little to get it change direction does the fault remain?

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                                    • Puzz360
                                      Puzz360 XR Pint V1 @Lia last edited by Puzz360

                                      @lia Yeah, weird indeed. What you say makes sense in a way because yes, it does engage full brightness.

                                      I hadn't really noticed they are like soft start... Both directions.

                                      Just trying again I notice that the LEDs will work ok (just an occasional flicker) when the board is just left on.... I can hear a faint electrical hum when they are on. (Ear close to the controller)
                                      If I engage the sensor they go full bright and then off.

                                      I switched them off with the app and they then carried on flickering very dimly even when I pressed the sensor. It almost looked like a cap gradually discharging until after say 30 seconds to a minute the LEDs went off ...

                                      It must be the driver I suppose because it's a new LED strip and cable (screened/shielded)

                                      Maybe getting overloaded on full brightness....?

                                      Need to swap the rear driver for the front hahaha

                                      If I rotate the wheel back and forth they just stay off once full brightness engaged.

                                      If I don't engage the sensor I can roll back and forth and the LEDs keep working.

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                                      • Lia
                                        Lia GT XR Pint Plus V1 DIY @Puzz360 last edited by

                                        @puzz360 If you do open it again take a pic of the driver area. Might be worth checking the physical state if the inductors near the connectors on the reverse side.

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