Best posts made by Samuraipunch

Just wondering... Because you know you want a concave footpad that you can trust, as FM can't get it right. It's hard to believe that there are still so many reports of GT's ghosting on people.

You gib, i fix, deal?

... That's all I got after seeing that board.

@swinefeaster I didn't read all of the thread, in skimming through though... From what I've heard, the earlier versions of the JWFFM are... problematic, to put it nicely. Although this tends to be from more of the different versions, and different fw variations out there. Which is why it seems hit or miss for some people, as the combination of hw and fw of the chip to the board it's used in. This could be your issue... but then again, I don't really have a high level of trust/faith in it.

For some of the boards I flipped, and people were wanting it, I steered them away, or said I wouldn't do it, and if they wanted to pay extra for it. I wouldn't "warranty" it.

Looking forward to the Floatwheel torpedos... Wonder if they learned anything from the GT front concave footpads...

Must simp for @Lia , first and only rule!

@lia You know... For the right amount of counter-simping I could be convinced to send you my WTFs when I get my Varials. ;)

@lia @Swinefeaster OWIE depending on which fork you use offers more compatibility, although there've been some reports of it not working right. I'd say that there are less issues than with the JWFFM chip though, although requires a few extra steps like compiling and flashing the chip.

But for this "hassle" you get a lot more functionality that isn't available either in app (OW FM, OWCE-which you really wouldn't need to use). You're mostly using the chip's web portal to update/configure it. But one of the things you do get is the ability to lock your board and it otherwise responds like a bricked board throwing an Error 16 and won't boot.

I'd recommend using OWIE over JWFFM, and had it been available when I was board flipping, it's what I would have recommended/used.

Your post/comments about the platysense... Make it seem even more dubious of a product once you wash away the landsurf hype. Early versions of it had the sensor go to the edges. From what you're describing it's as if they made the sensor area smaller. Likely as a result of the sensor sticking on, similar to the GT foot pads.

So, I'm still the only person with a full-size foot pad sensor with front concave... With the exception of the handful I've built/sold, and the others that have built their own similar transplant deck.

@lemur Oh wow, that's new... I knew originally that you had to build/compile it to flash it... Maybe something changed with the licensing/github to allow it to be ready to flash, or they decided to just ship it ready to flash. Haven't really been paying attention to OWIE since i left the OW discord.

Yes... Cancel the GT. :D Although, I really do kind of want to see you, or someone try and ride the XS.

How the narrative of issues still plaguing it is a bit disturbing. It really makes me question the possible successors, and voltage increase may go.

Like what will happen when FM tries going from th e 75V to 100V or more like with what we're seeing in the EUC market. Granted, FM could step up incrementally, but I think there's going to be a performance aspect being chased too in time; where maybe a handful of volts won't be enough.

Kingsong went from 84V to 126V in the S22, and it resulted in a battery fire from poor design and implementation of safety measures. It could be said that they didn't have the experience for higher voltage wheels. Whereas Gotway who was well known for their own battery fire issues with certain battery packs has for the most part shaken that stigma with the transition to Begode, but has also incrementally increased voltages without significant resulting battery fires.

The OW's board form factor/sizing will have to likely suffer as a result of chasing higher voltages though. Unless there's new cell technology/chemistry introduced that's effective at a reasonable price.

I've replaced the inserts on a few controllers... You could see if you have something that will thread in and fit, and basically pull it out... Or try to drill it out. Basically try not to make the hole in the plastic bigger, or crack it is the big thing.

Then when you have a new insert, I like to fill it (the hole around the insert) with a bit of epoxy/jb weld/etc, around the insert, and reassemble that portion of the board, so you can get screws to line up when everything's put back together. It's important to not use too much so that it doesn't over run, and glue the board together so you can't dissasemble it, and or get the screw out. But a little bit to hold it in place, let it cure, then go back and add more to fill it iin, works well too.

@lia Yea, if I was going to do a VESC personally I'd do something stupid like that "just because I can"... It's not my fault the LilFocer3'll support 100V :D

With the S20 fire it was something about the firmware not failing over to kill the power or something, in a "unique" circumstance when there was too much voltage regen, or something. And since the software control/switch failed and didn't act fast enough it allowed the physical measures to be bypassed. Something along those lines i think. KS released a FW update to address that, although I don't believe there where other changes mentioned, so it's a bit sketchy to me, if that's a real fix.

Gotway had questionable pack design/qc combined with sourcing underrated batteries is my understanding. Then used that pack across a generation of wheels. They changed their pack design, improved QC, stopped using those cells, and it seems to have addressed the issues. As they're primarily selling 84/100V wheels as their mainstay.

@swinefeaster Is that a new insert? I use these. Pinch the end you insert into the controller a little, so when it cures a bit, and you screw in the screw all the way, it expands into the epoxy/plastic and stays snug.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08P1T1FVP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@lemur I guess, there's kinda two topics going on in this thread...

The purpose and main one being, that I want to get the community that's on the GT, "off the X" and so that at a consumer level there's a fix to the footpads, and don't worry about ghosting. Basically a bottom up approach at trying to get FM to fix or design a better front footpad unit.

And the other being that to me the OW as platform, while it revolves around FM isn't one I want to support going forward even as a Vesc conversion; as I'm sinking more money into an existing FM based product. A Vesc build that's independent of FM may be plausible down the line, as a new build/project.

But I feel that it'll always remain handicapped by form factor. As I don't see how it will be possible to reach higher voltages without increasing the size of the footpads, and their thickness; without drastically altering how the board feels, without corrections through rail shape/geometry.

@lia What, you got my attention with OnlyFans.... ;D

I'm just going to take that as really a subtle way of saying "needs to shave legs" though. But really... Is the helmet ok? We'd hate it if it had to come off, and you lose your veil of anonymity and confirmation that you do have a face! :P

@S-Leon What? No likey what's under the helmet of a Kull Warrior from Stargate SG-1? :D

Fiiiiinnneeee I give you guys... "Returning from the wilds of a doctor's appointment". Something like 7 very windy miles, and I haven't ridden my board in about 6 months.

Expand stand by 2 places. You'll thank me later. Make spot for EUC too ;)

@notsure You put the ice cream in a cone, and do interviews while eating it? I'm sure details like a vendor, or grocery/convenience store, cooler, etc are likely involved, but that's over complicating Jeff eating ice cream.

@lia I kinda want to say no... in having interacted with Dan for awhile via discord... he's very "only one way, that's his way"... I wouldn't want to see him have a controlling stake/say. As he's pretty intolerant of others' ideas for improvement, or of criticism towards FM/OW. Don't buy into the ______ (the word is escaping me) that his whole "petition FM to respond on the GT" thing.

I also think that one of the key benefits of less exposure to the OW community is a positive, look at the low-level posts commonly made in the subreddit... Based on the majority of the posts and discussions here, they're at a much more technical level of detail and interest. To me, the end benefit is seeing this place as a haven away from responses that are "RTFM", and cultivate more in-depth topics, that can then perhaps be shared to a more broad audience and platform.

@lia Tail dragging/emergency/quick stop is such a terrible method of stopping; that’s over-relied on and too often the default response/reaction. Yes, yes, the community thinks it looks cool… But for when you really need to stop, it’s a terrible option as most cases it sacrifices control. And when done in a less than perfect/smooth environment it makes it easy to get yeeted.

What makes it even worse of an option is if you need to brake so hard that you’re causing the motor to cutout…